{"id":5019,"date":"2024-07-01T12:30:04","date_gmt":"2024-07-01T12:30:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.logisticindustrialbuildmadrid.com\/2024\/07\/01\/a-coffee-with-aurelio-ramirez-zardosa-president-of-the-spain-green-building-council-spaingbc\/"},"modified":"2024-07-24T08:24:56","modified_gmt":"2024-07-24T08:24:56","slug":"a-coffee-with-aurelio-ramirez-zardosa-president-of-the-spain-green-building-council-spaingbc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.logisticindustrialbuildmadrid.com\/en\/2024\/07\/01\/a-coffee-with-aurelio-ramirez-zardosa-president-of-the-spain-green-building-council-spaingbc\/","title":{"rendered":"A coffee with&#8230; Aurelio Ramirez Zardosa, President of the Spain Green Building Council (SpainGBC)"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"5019\" class=\"elementor elementor-5019 elementor-4958\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-21a93f2 elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"21a93f2\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-780db33d\" data-id=\"780db33d\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2da66459 elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"2da66459\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_animation&quot;:&quot;fadeInRight&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">A coffee with&#8230; Aurelio Ramirez Zardosa, President of the Spain Green Building Council (SpainGBC)<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4996b2f6 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4996b2f6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>LIB: It has been more than 25 years since the SpainGBC, the first LEED council created in Spain and Europe (1998). As founder and president, what are the main challenges you have faced over the years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Aurelio:<\/strong> Since our inception, we have reached several important milestones. The first LEED registered building in Europe and Spain was Metrovacesa&#8217;s ALVENTO Business Park in Madrid (2000), which obtained the first LEED certification in the region in 2006.<\/p>\n<p>Some of our outstanding achievements, both in Spain and Europe, include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>2008: Palmas Altas Technology Centre, Seville, ABENGOA, 1st LEED-CS Platinum PreCertification. 2015 World Record, LEED-CSv2.0: Platinum.<\/li>\n<li>2009: Floor 24 Torre Picasso, CBRE, 1st LEED-CI Gold interiors.<\/li>\n<li>2012: Iberdrola Tower, Bilbao, 1st Double Platinum.<\/li>\n<li>2015: Hotel Avenida Sofia, Sitges, MiM, 1st LEED-Platinum hotel.<\/li>\n<li>2016: Residential S.Coop. Arroyo Bodonal, Tres Cantos, Madrid, 1st Residential LEED-Platinum.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>During the real estate boom, few wanted to build LEED buildings because everything sold easily. After the 2008 crisis, the real demand for LEED buildings emerged, with 12 registrations that year. Differentiation and improvement of the real estate product became essential to compete. In 2016, we experienced a strong rebound with 244 registrations, although this did not immediately translate into certifications.<\/p>\n<p>COVID-19 kept the number of certifications constant, which grew again in 2022 and 2023. Although the public, hotel, education and residential sectors have not widely adopted LEED, with 807 buildings, we are the country in Europe with the most certified buildings in the last five years, the second in Latin America and sixth worldwide for the last three years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LIB: Focusing on logistics and industrial buildings, what is the implementation\/penetration of LEED certification in Spain?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Aurelio:<\/strong> Until 2019, the logistics and industrial building sector had 40 LEED-certified buildings, placing it in third position behind the commercial-retail sector. In 2020, it climbed to second position with 61 buildings, surpassing the 47 in the commercial-retail sector. Growth has continued, and in 2023, 126 LEED-certified buildings were reached, of which 110 belong to the logistics sub-sector. This demonstrates the clear preponderance of logistics in the LEED industrial sector.<\/p>\n<p>Leading companies such as MONTEPINO-VALFONDO, MERLIN and BUSINESS CENTER MANZANARES head the group of 53 logistics companies that are certifying the most LEED buildings. These companies use LEED because it balances maximising operating profit with reducing environmental impact and improving occupant well-being. By increasing the value of their buildings as assets, they increase the value of their real estate portfolios and thus the annual return to shareholders.<\/p>\n<p>Reduced environmental impacts are quantified and used as positive marketing, enhancing the reputation of companies in media sensitive to these issues. In addition, increased occupant wellbeing translates into significant productivity gains, far exceeding the operational savings achieved by LEED in buildings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LIB: The LEED sustainable building certification system classifies buildings according to their degree of excellence based on 8 categories. What are these criteria and which of them is currently the most critical in industrial\/logistics buildings in Spain?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Aurelio:<\/strong> In order to achieve LEED certification, buildings must meet 11 mandatory prerequisites distributed in these categories, adding up to a maximum of 110 points of voluntary credits. The certification levels are: CERTIFIED (40), SILVER (50), GOLD (60) and PLATINUM (80).<\/p>\n<p>The categories are:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Integrative Process (IP):<\/strong> (Prerequisites: 0, Credits: 1)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Localisation and Transport (LT):<\/strong> (P: 0, C: 16)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Sustainable Plots (SS):<\/strong> (P: 1, C: 10)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Water Efficiency (WE):<\/strong> (P: 3, Q: 11)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Energy and Atmosphere (EA):<\/strong> (P: 4, S: 33)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Materials and Resources (MR):<\/strong> (P: 1, S: 13)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Indoor Environmental Quality (EQ):<\/strong> (P: 2, S: 16)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Innovation (IN):<\/strong> (P: 0, Q: 6)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Regional Priority (RP):<\/strong> (P: 0, C: 4)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>In the industrial-logistics sector in Spain, the most critical criterion is <strong>Energy and Atmosphere (EA)<\/strong> due to the large amount of energy consumed by logistics centres. Improving energy efficiency not only reduces operating costs, but also reduces the environmental impact, making them more sustainable.<\/p>\n<p>Buildings in green buildings must follow specific criteria to be certified in the W&amp;DC (Warehouse and Distribution Centre) typology. LEED is based on meeting international industry standards and criteria thresholds, not governmental standards. Buildings already in operation can obtain LEED O+M (Operation and Maintenance) and\/or LEED ID+C (Interiors) certification.<\/p>\n<p>The most challenging credits are those for <strong>Materials and Resources,<\/strong> especially those related to Life Cycle Analysis and Environmental Product Declarations, as they are theoretical and difficult for many manufacturers to meet.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4b646c77 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"4b646c77\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"698\" src=\"https:\/\/easyfairsassets.com\/sites\/269\/2024\/07\/Foto-A-Ramirez-01-768x698.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium_large size-medium_large wp-image-4963\" alt=\"Foto Aurelio Ramirez\" srcset=\"https:\/\/easyfairsassets.com\/sites\/269\/2024\/07\/Foto-A-Ramirez-01-768x698.jpg 768w, https:\/\/easyfairsassets.com\/sites\/269\/2024\/07\/Foto-A-Ramirez-01-300x273.jpg 300w, https:\/\/easyfairsassets.com\/sites\/269\/2024\/07\/Foto-A-Ramirez-01.jpg 910w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f1c9641 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f1c9641\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>LIB: Regarding the time and costs to be taken into account, what is the average time and cost to achieve LEED certification?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Aurelio:<\/strong> To achieve LEED certification, it is essential to start the process as early as possible, ideally during the first stages of building conceptualisation. Constant follow-up is crucial at all stages: preliminary design, basic design, execution, bidding and contracting, construction, commissioning, and operation and maintenance. Some credits must be completed up to 10 months after the commissioning of the building.<\/p>\n<p>The entire process can take the time of design and construction plus an additional 12-18 months to complete all the formalities.<\/p>\n<p>Certification costs are proportional to the gross floor area. Fees range from a flat rate of \u20ac5,800 for buildings smaller than 4,600 m\u00b2, up to \u20ac56,500 for buildings of 69,700 m\u00b2. These costs can be increased if binding consultations, credit appeals, or quick reviews are carried out. In addition, consideration should be given to external consultancy fees that may be required to advise on the whole process or in specific areas such as modelling and analysis.<\/p>\n<p>In LEED, there are no specific certifiers or consultants, which avoids problems and corruption common in other systems. Certification is done by the USGBC through its international cloud-based platform, LEED-ONLINE.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LIB: And to finish this coffee, we wanted to ask you about Logistic &amp; Industrial Build, the new trade fair &#8211; unique for the logistics and industrial construction market &#8211; that we are launching in November 2024. The Spain Green Building Council is supporting and promoting the event, what do you think the event can bring to the sector in general and to your member companies in particular?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Aurelio:<\/strong> The interrelation between companies supplying materials, products, equipment and services (consultants, architects, engineers, specialists, etc.) together with developers, builders, installers, users and land developers is always enriching. This collaboration produces a cross-pollination in which everyone brings innovative solutions, advanced technologies and more efficient ways of doing things.<\/p>\n<p>In the field of sustainability, there are specific applications that are being successfully implemented in logistics buildings. Many of these innovations come from the United States, such as multi-mirror skylights, the integration of agricultural production with greenhouses on roofs, and photovoltaic electricity production for both internal and external use in logistics buildings, with high management capacity. In addition, new systems are being developed to collect and analyse data on the activity of logistics buildings, as well as the incorporation of the Internet of Things (IoT) to reduce operating costs, increase efficiency and, consequently, improve the benefits of logistics operations.<\/p>\n<p>I believe that the Logistic &amp; Industrial Build show will be very interesting and beneficial. This event will provide a unique platform for all industry players to exchange ideas and knowledge, thus promoting innovation and sustainability in logistics and industrial construction. 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